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Removing the Woman From Her Target

The typical behavior of many girls is to go out and try to pick up on guys. It's very amusing to watch. They typically choose guys who are far overqualified for them. They are physically turned on by the process of gaming them. It's interesting to see.

Last night I approached a 4set, 2guys and 2girls. The girls were having a great time, which told me that it was not their boyfriends. I was thinking to engage the guys initially, as the girls seemed so into them. As I approached, I made eye contact with the two very big good-looking guys, and they parted for me like the Red Seas and allowed me to game their girls. It was quite pathetic, as these North American guys basically have "victim" painted on their foreheads. It's unbelievable how the AFC culture is engrained into the spirits of these poor dudes. Seeing the openening, I gamed the girls directly. They were into me, but as their guys walked off they jumped to get their attention. The guys had backed off with their tails between their legs, but the girls still would have chosen them over me if I'd not removed them, because they had put work into picking them up. I promptly pumped buying temperature with standard attract game, and pulled them. That was a success.

Tonight I saw two failures, however. I see a cute girl wearing a cowboy hat, talking to a 6'4 natural player. He's good. I walk in and open. Like a typical North American, he tries to own the frame but I talk over him and he backs off. I have the girl now. She is very into me, as I am running standard game. Out of the corner of her eye, she sees some dancer guy that she likes. She shrieks "There's that guy I lost!! It's him!!" Boom, she walks away from me and is over to him. I've lost the set as quickly as I got it.

I walk outside as the club is closing, and spot another 2 set. Hot girls, I love LA. As I approach the set, I overhear one of the girls saying "You scared him off. He was so cute, its your fault.. blah blah". I engage the set, and suggest going to the afterbar food place. We're on our way there, when my girl spots the guy she thought her friend had messed up on her. She blows me off for him. I go in and tool him, but she doesn't care at all. His loss of status means nothing to her. She wants him.

A similar case happened 2 nights ago. I entered a set, and tooled the guy off. I assume that it is her boyfriend, because of a mistaken judgement. I tool him and he leaves for a bit. He comes back, she invites *both* of us to her hotel, where her friends are having a birthday party. It turns out that it is not her boyfriend.. WTF?!!? I go, and when I get there I see a hotter girl and take her to the bedroom and wind up fooling around with her for a few hours. I will follow up with that girl tomorrow probably, so it was a fruitful night. But again, the original girl chooses the guy that SHE picked up.

It interests me to see how these girls are accustomed to being the choosers. I am good at picking up girls who are looking (aka "sluts"). I can sense it, and I'm on it instantly. I enjoy it, but to be honest its often an empty victory. Usually these girls are 7s and 8s, trying to hook up with guys who are 9s and 10s. Much less often are the chicks themselves 9s or 10s, and out on the prowl. They know their own value, and aren't as eager to validate themselves. Of course, 9s and 10s behave the exact same for celebs and other heavy hitters. I've been thinking more and more about T/T to get the girls to perceive that they have chosen ME. I do this often with a great trick, which is that on certain sets I will get EC from girls prior to opening, and will later accuse them of making me talk to them. I will repeat this to the girls a few times, and also I will pull back in set on high points (I have posted about this in detail in the past), to get them to bust their ass to game me. It is effective, but I honestly wonder how many times I've ever had a girl super desperate to game me, on the level that I see alot of the "good-looking" guys getting.

As a funny side story, I accidentally gamed one of my girlfriends in a club tonight. I didn't recognize her, and gamed the shit out of her. She sat there covering her face and laughing her head off, and finally I say "Are you a fucking retard? Why are you covering your face like a retard?! You were normal a minute ago. Act normal." She was like "TD, are you kidding me?!?!" I'm like "Ooops.." Then her boyfriend got there (her "real" one), and was a bit abrasive to say the least.

Anyway, I was curious about your guys' experiences with girls as choosers, as well as thoughts on getting them to put that effort in.

By TD

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