The Myth of the Natural Pickup Artist

author: "toecutter"
date: Fri, 21 Nov 2005 19:47:00 GMT
newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast.general
subject: Re: Breaking the Myth of the Natural.

On 11/21/05 1:30:00 PM, CheMistrY wrote:

>The point is that in terms of PU there is no such thing as a
>"natural." It’s a myth, a misconception.
>

I agree that this idea of natural is completely over-used. However, I define it differently to most. It is a simple fact that some people are extroverted and some introverted. Some people make friends easily, are highly social and likable, while others have almost no friends, are anti-social and not likable for whatever reason (some because they are duplicitous and others because they are fake. Some because they are shallow and self centred, others because they are insecure, try to hard to impress, and are clingy)

So for me ... once you strip all the PU techniques away ... there is a certain level of naturalness that will make it easy for you if you have it. I know for example that I don’t need tightly scripted stuff to have a conversation with people I just met. I don’t need it, but for PU I find some sort of script works better. But I am pleased to deviate from it and just go with the natural flow of the conversation also. I know another guy who is a good PUA who has every single thing that comes out of his mouth a routine. And between routines he sits in silence. Now I would argue that I am more natural than he is. Just because I have always made friends easily. That doesn’t necessarily mean I get better results.

>"Naturals" got good at the game because they were either
>thrust into it at an early age (ie because they’re good
>looking, older brothers, etc) or because they have learned
>there skills by trial and error.

Or just the genes they inherited that regulate the glands that flow the hormones chemicals into their brains are better suited for being social. Being social is not the be all and end all of life. And I would argue that it is not nearly as much from their environment as you think. Cool guys will always be more attractive to girls than nerds. The cool guys split out from the nerds in primary school way before we were aware of our dicks.

>
>Everyone pays their dues.

I don’t think that is as true as you are saying. We are not all born as an identical empty canves. We are born with shit.

>"Natural" is an appearance. Everyone can learn to be a
>"natural" over time.

This I agree with.