The Fucked-up Party Girls

That's just an idea: I'm thinking out loud. If someone has a good idea, I'd be up for trying it and reporting back. Also, one other line of thinking: What does a party girl really want? What is her ENDS VALUE? She is insecure, and badly needs social validation. How can we become that source of social validation for her?

 Kakol: As Gunwitch mentioned in his post, party girls are ALL promoter type personalities. The story that Formhandle related was good but whether or not that chyck was a party girl or promoter type is debatable. Just 'cause a chyck is IN a club saying that she's having fun doesn't necessarily make her a party girl or a promoter. BTW just because a chyck is a party girl or a promoter doesn't automatically mean that she's stupid either. Uninhibited yes. Stupid no.

Like Final D, I am not a "party boy." If you're not a promoter type personality, you're going to have difficulty PUing these types of chycks. As I've mentioned before, the guys who will have the easiest time with these types of chycks are promoter types also. Everyone else is going to be standing around wondering how to get into this type of chycks face and slow her down long enough to get a hand on her.

Final D: I think with these chicks you don't want to BREAK their state as much as TAKE ADVANTAGE of it. Don't you? I haven't ever been able to get into their zone of no defense ever. Basically, I think many chicks perform promoter shit in order to put people off, in order to pretend they don't want to be picked up so they don't have to deal with it. I mean, if they were interested in guys would they make 'em compete with the disco ball, seventeen margaritas, their eleventeen cockblocking UG cousins, and the whirligig of their razor-sharp earrings and wrist-bangles? Umm, actually, yes I guess they would. Maybe it's all a form of shit-test, to see if you're man enough to get through the defenses.A promoter type guy will likely just walk out on to the dance floor and start twirling and waving his fucking arms just like she is. Maybe just grab her hips and "back that ass up" without uttering a fucking word. Ideally, that's the way to do it. However, that's just not me either. So what to do? Well, as I've said before, you can either choose to do something or choose to do nothing. IMHO choosing to do something is always better.

Anyway, the answer for me is what I call "subtle GM style." I say subtle because GM style is not my thing either. It would be a rare day that you would see me just walk up to any chyck and basically say "lets go somewhere and fuck" which is how I see that style. I couldn't be congruent with that because that's just not my personality either. But I can be just as direct in a subtle way and lead up to the equivalent of "do you want to fuck" in my own way. In this case, and assuming that this chyck is really a party girl promoter type out shaking her ass, twirling, waving her hands and whooping it up on the dance floor in seeming oblivion to anything else that's going on around her, my approach would be to wait patiently until she's finished dancing but be in position to grab her as she comes off the dance floor. Or perhaps even wait until she returns to her bar stool or table then open the conversation with something eluding to what I just witnessed her doing like:

"You know, after watching you dance out there there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that you have the finest ass in this place, where'd you learn to dance like that?"

Or

Can I see it close up?

Or

Can I hold it?

Or

Whatever . . .

This has the benefit of being sexually direct without being blatantly vulgar. If she responds positively to your opening, you can then follow it up with something like:
"God, watching you just makes me want to bury my face between your quivering cheeks. Have you ever had a man do that to you?"

For me, this immediately turns the convo sexual which is where I want to be with any chyck. I'm not great looking, I'm older, I'm not in great physical shape, so the only chance I have with chycks is to get them to visualize doing exciting sexual things like they might read in a romance novel. From there it's relatively easy to continue leading them into feeling that you might be just the guy for her to experience this kind of breathless, exciting, sex with tonight. At anytime that things don't seem to be going your way during the convo, you can just eject if you want.