The Fucked-up Party Girls

Then, at one point, I get really bored dealing with the obstacle and ask HER what song is playing, which has changed by now, tell her I don't have a clue what it is and then turn myself around and start walking away.  One of my wings then grabs me as I'm walking away and tells me that the WARPIG called me an "asshole" (I guess because I didn't know that song and started walking away) so I turn around and, instead of going back to the WARPIG, walk up to the HB (totally ignoring the WARPIG) and said playfully "Hey, your friend just called me an asshole."  She starts explaining why and I interrupt and say "Hey, I think I need a hug for that." (get her to "apologize" for her friend, LOL)  So she gives me a hug and I keep my arm around her and then I start teasing her to give me an apology kiss, so she kisses me on the cheek and then I get her to kiss me again, teasing "that wasn't good enough", then I get her to kiss me again on the other cheek and tell her "that wasn't a real kiss".  She wasn't going for the lip-lock so I just kept my arm around her and pretty soon had her hand in my other hand and started playing with her hand and just kept teasing her while giving her heavy kino with both hands.

Multonne: Pull her toward you as if gesturing to tell her something, and whisper "Could I talk to you alone for a minute?" And escort her to another area where you can talk privately.Then, when I figured I didn't care to go through much more effort for a tongue-down with her, I ejected and left again.

Later in the night, I ran into her again and got her to kiss me a couple more times, but at that point she was kinda drunk and nearly toppled us over when leaning in for the kisses.  Anyway, the point is, no SS needed to be used in that situation.  It was purely fun and excitement mode, challenges, teasing, willingness to walk, not tolerating BS, etc.

Does anyone else have problems in this area, with the "wild and crazy" HBs? An extra problem for me is: I've always seduced with my words and mind, never with my body.

 Formhandle: Just lay on the kino and drop the SS for these situations.  Doesn't that make sense?  In bars, it just takes guts, willingness to walk away, a fun attitude, and resilience.  I have not had enough practice at bars/clubs, prefer street type PU but I know now instictually what it takes to work a place like that the right way.  As far as those kind of chicks in the "normal" world: kino, kino, kino, talk about exciting things, lead, lead, lead and stay congruent, don't change character mid-stream just to make a close.

Sasha: Look into Mr.Smooth or GM(Grand Master). Make sure if you do them, be congruent.

 Gunwitch: I have a bitch of a time with these party girls as well. In my successes with these chiks i have 1. done my UPSET routine Understand and match her state (party state) Pace her reality(the club the lights ect on approach)Say her name alot Eye contact Touch her alot. I have used GMstyle as a means of state matching and find this VERY important to the several pickups at bars ive done on these party girls. You also need to be able to go back into "SS" or "normal" mode when the tone inevitably goes there (most likely right before the fuck or back at your place ect when her slut factor kicks in).

Being a Promoter type seems to help also as you don't have to fake the GMstyle as much. Always gives an advantage to be able to dance, be hip looking and be handsome of course  (none of the last  which i have hence my low success rate?).

Colonel Monkey: I agree, its mostly KINO, and more overtly sexual talk. Just saying the word "fuck" and "sexy", while kinoing her will get her juices flowing. These chicks want to get fucked that night. So don't waste your time with patterning, I think a big newbie mistake is to waste too much time with this and not demonstrate sexuality to the girl. The whole point of patterning and storytelling is to demonstrate sexual value to this girl.