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I seem to exude some sort of "nice guy" vibes
Grim Reaper Dude: Here is the deal, every time I go out, I seem to exude some sort of "nice guy" vibes, its sickening, don't get me wrong I am a nice guy, I just don't want women to find this out so easily.... like at 500 yards, they pick up my scent. Nice guy 2 o' clock ----> Case in point, me and my two friends Ed and Steve, We go to the local topless bar to hand out money. There is this chick, a customer, prolly bi, She is sitting at the table in front of us with two guys, well the guys leave (restroom break, whatever) , she turns to me and asks me if I will watch her purse while she goes to the bathroom.
Formhandle: She did not conclude you were a "nice guy" by asking that question. She concluded you were a "nice guy" by your response. Let me guess, you replied with "sure". When a woman turns to you and says something, especially when her male companion(s) have gone away, it is a clear AI which necessitates a PUA response. Anything else, you get labeled "nice guy".
A chick is not like a guy who gets turned on immediately. When she sets up an AI (consciously or unconsciously), she is indicating to you that she is partially attracted. Based on your response, you can either increase or decrease her attraction. Just do something to increase her attraction (without supplicating) and keep repeating. If you run into resistance, revert to tactics learned here in order to bridge to the next attraction level.
Now I have not said word one to this girl, but just by looking at me, the way I am dressed, and my demeanor, she can tell that I am harmless. WTF????
Style: Dude, Try looking at this way. She waited until her guy friends left, and then turned to talk to you. Sure, maybe she thought you were a nice guy, but she clearly wanted to meet you and talk to you. Otherwise, it would have been very easy for her to take her purse to the bathroom by herself. This is a total PUA tactic: I always ask a hot girl to watch my stuff while I go to the bathroom or into the pool or wherever, to set it up so that I can talk to them when I come back. Think about it Grim Reaper: you're sitting there worrying about how YOU look and appear when, if you paused for a moment and got outside of your worries, you would have realized that a girl in a strip club was hitting you--and a bi one who's probably a lot of fun, too. Even if by some small miracle she WASN'T really hitting on you, assume that she was and proceed accordingly. Sure, work out: but not to attract chicks, just to feel better about yourself. The fact is that looking like a nice guy can work too, because it makes chicks lower their defenses.
Once again I don't want to be a jerk, an asshole, I just want women to maybe have to think for more than 2 minutes before they stuff me in a category that I don't want to be in.
Formhandle: Your problem is that you believe women think logically when it comes to attraction.
I don't care if they figure out a week after I banged them that wow, he was a sheep in wolves clothing, I just don't want them to know the first 2 minutes.
Formhandle: Then don't DO anything that will give them that impression. It has little to do with your appearance. You may want to have someone watch your body language in situations like that and report back to you maybe something you're not aware of. You can also get a MP3 recorder and covertly record your convos with chicks, then listen to them later and you will begin to see your conversation problems... and be able to fix them.
Christopher L. Sands: I would first ask - do you work out? It's great, and if you ever really get into it you'll notice the difference in responses with girls. I know this one guy, head security at one of the clubs, and he's taking some serious anabolics. He's jumped up to 310 lbs., like, overnight, and nobody will f**k with him. Girls, however, are amazed. My point is, this is a very good way to making a change in appearance. Additionally, after working out faithfully for awhile, you'll begin to notice changes in your diet that will affect the way your body stores muscle and fat, and you will start eating better. And when you begin eating better, your mood should improve dramatically. And it's very likely that after working out for awhile that you are going to have to buy new clothes, because the old ones are either too large or two small. Sacrifice some of that hard earned money and buy clothes. If you really want to complete the package, go get your hair cut.
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