TD Phone Game Creepy? 2 Chicks Say Yes...

So this is how you make them chase you by being a challenge. But you have to hook them, them bait them in, and then SLAM! Make it very clear that you are a busy man and could care less if you ever see them again. BUT, don't let the line get too slack. Just before (or shortly after) they give up, give them some encouragement. "Sorry, we've been having such a hard time meeting up, I'd really like to see you. Hey, can I call you back in an hour?"

Am I falling to the dark side of the force? I mean, honestly I'm not bothered by the fact that some girls think I'm a stalker. I learned from it, and I learned the lesson better than any of you reading it will unless you try these things for yourself. I'm starting to view girls like insects under glass. Let's see what happens when I do this... If that sounds cold, remember that they will not hesitate for a second to write you off like the lowliest maggot on the planet, if you fail to demonstrate that you have value for them.

Course, I may just be getting bitter cause mean girls are hurting my feelings. But sometimes you win, and sometimes you learn.

Girls are my anti-drug.

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Walter  wrote

TD's phone game isn't creepy. Sounds like you are being creepy though. The idea of calling whenever you want is based on the alpha male's frame of not giving a shit. If you call 3 times and she picks up on the fact that you DO give a shit - and she will be able to tell - you are in creepville.

Chill out and stop worrying about phone games. Have fun on the phone, and for Christ's sake ask a girl to hang out sometime. It just might work. What is this bullshit of exchanging 20-30 texts with a girl? By now she's wondering if you have a dick. Forget the dogma that you should be so high value that she will ask to see you first. Some girls will do that, a lot won't, and at your stage of the game it is not going to happen often.

Just by sheer numbers, at least one of those 17 girls was dying to meet up. Meet and fuck that one desperate chick, and your confidence will go up and so will your success rate.

And well done, 17 numbers in 3 months is a great start.

Walter

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JC Jerkson  wrote

I like Tyler Durden. His posts inspire me.

However, I don't agree with his phone game as well. But just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it's wrong. It works for him doesn't it?

I come from an old Don Juan school of thought. Thrillseeker the way you are handling it NOW is what works for me. I DO NOT call three times in a row. I can be aloof at times. It builds mystery. It makes them come to you. It makes you a challenge.

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InnerCalm  wrote

I don't bother much with phone calls.

I might call once when theirs a good reason, if theirs no answer, I leave a message, if they don't call back emediately, I don't call again, if they're interested they'll eventually call back.

Their's no point in calling repeatedly, unless their into you, and you know it will only make things better if you call.

In other words, you have to know the limits of your game, what made them like you, AND what they don't like.

If you don't, you'll end up out of bounds, and you'll get penalized 5 yards.

Translation: You'll shatter the wonderful image she has of you, and she won't think you're so hot anymore.

How can I explain this further to make it easier to understand?

It's like someone calls you, and makes you a great offer on something you really want; Cool!

Then one day, they turn into a telemarketer who calls you 5 times every day; Get the picture?

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Paradoxpua  wrote

Hey man,

I'm a big fan of TD as well. In his phone game post, the main concept I got from it that has benefitted me drastically is forcing her into the day 2. Basically, you don't take "no" as an answer. The idea he suggests is, as soon as you keep getting that bullshit like "well I am busy everyday and busy then and blah" then you basically say to her "SUGGEST SOMETHING", and keep being persistent until you get her to commit to the day 2. Being persistent on the phone works for me, even though I lose a bit of value and come across a bit needy, because I will keep suggesting days that I'm available until shit bites on it. I don't stop until I get the day 2. I figure, "hey I might lose some value coming across needy, but I'd rather get the day 2 than NO day 2, and I can make up for it during the day 2".