Looks Matter?

Being honest here, looking at your other posts it seems to me like you are struggling with a few things in your head and are trying to rationalize something. Are you having specific problems and this post is representative of your thought process trying to determine the reason behind the failures?

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unrelated1400  wrote

well my problems are obvious. But It's hard for me to believe that a guy w/ below average looks can get as far as many books and this website say that he will.

In other words I just can grasp the idea that I'll ever get to that point, whatever I do, It just seems unrealistic to me. As much as I try, I just can't imagine it. Maybe because of my past failures and years gone by, this has just become my reality.

I just don't wana lose grasp of reality, I want to be honest with myself, and not bullshit myself.

I don't know how to change this. maybe I need some psychological counseling before I can even start any of this.

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WhiteRhino  wrote

--Okay, while I was writing this y'all addressed my first paragraph. Obviously you feel you aren't physically attractive. Uh...Google Image 'Neil Strauss'. Yeah. That's kinda the message of The Game. And more power to him.--

While I agree that the seduction community plays down the importance of looks, I agree with everything Seth said. I'm going to try not to repeat most of it, just to say that he's right on the money.

Women value looks differently than men do, but are conditioned to frame it as "he's not attractive" - where they might not mean he doesn't have the physical attractiveness, but that he has no style or bad BL. Men generally only use this to mean what the woman looks like physically.

Are you in/Have you been to college? Girls go to class and walk around campus in oversized sweats all the time, looking like they just got out of bed - because they know men will want to put it in them even if they're dressed shittily. Because we try to see UNDER the clothes, not at them. Now...how many guys do you see in sweats with HBs trailing after them? Not many, if at all.

Ever seen a girl you rated as a 7 or 8 but your friend is like "Dude, HER? No way. 4 or 5." -- this allows for certain variables in taste. I like a girl with curves, for instance. Not fat, but if she's got some swing in her hips...dayam.

Now, my friends tool me on this all the time. They say I'm that dude who likes heavy chicks (nevermind that I've pulled hotter HBs with tighter bodies than any of my AFC buddies, regardless) - so sometimes I'll be out and see a girl I find hot, but won't approach them if certain of my dude friends are out because I know I'd hear ALL about it from them later. But if I meet a girl like that and get to know her...well fuck my shallow-ass friends, because I know the girl is cool already.

Girls think the same way. Physical attraction is a variable - and I know some girls who will shun a guy at a club but warm up to him solo during daygame because he falls into her "select type" but not into Vogue magazine's type (which is that 6'5 guy who can afford enough time a day to do 10,000 situps in the sun and have a kickass tan and the perfect V crotch, etc.)

You can have confidence in anything - and it's true, beautiful people have things come easily to them - but often because they don't have to work for these things, they don't develop as fully as people possessing less beauty. I'm not a Vogue Magazine type (I look like the lovechild of Style and Bruce Willis, actually, to give you an idea) but because I had to grow up being a less-than-beautiful person I had to...gasp...cultivate my intelligence, knowledge and personality to compensate. I have something more valuable that won't fade with time. Girls can see that, as long as you know how to convey it correctly.

It's late and I ramble. Just remember: Beautiful faces grow old and become nothing. Beautiful minds grow old and become something.