Looks Matter?

unrelated1400 wrote

I have read in on this website and some books mixed ideas about looks.

Most like to emphasize that looks do not matter as much as you think. Some books say that look matter 30% of the time based on no real evidence. how true is this?

Here's my two cents.

We all know that if you are good looking things will be much easier, this is just a fact. And yea if you have game you'll get laid more often.

Yes I am an AFC, but I think it is wrong to give people the idea that looks are marginal, and game is the most important.

The fact is that looks are important, and probably much more important than is emphasized on this website. This does not mean you should have a lower self confidence or less game.

Just know that if you're not a good looking person, you will have much more rejections and consequently lower self confidence do due the mere fact of classical conditioning. the more you get rejected, the more your brain is naturally hard wired to feel like the next one is gonna be a rejection, and creates a low self confidence and fear. This is just how your brain works. This is just a fact.

Many people here say, maybe your opener was wrong, or maybe your approach was wrong, etc. EVEN IF YOU DO THINGS perfectly, you could still get rejected, she just doesn't dig you. you must accept this.

you must try to minimize your rejection by approaching chicks that give you a non verbal cue, NOT approach EVERYONE. you must also accept that if you are not a very good looking person, you will get less visual cue's from hotter girls. This is just natural selection.

Knowing this fact will help you become much more resilient and gaining your confidence back faster.

so yes looks do matter much more that people think, and game does matter too.

please feel free to comment and put in your view.

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wheyshiki  wrote

yes i agree

looks are very important, HOWEVER they are not as important as a GIRL's looks are to us.

i think many guys put too much importance on looks, but in the seduction community it's downplayed too much

i have had a model, at least hb9.0 try to jump my cock JUST on raw looks, and then lose interest because i had no game and starting acting like a dork.

so looks are important. but so is game. if you have both, then all the more power to you.

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sethtrump  wrote

This is so wrong it's not even funny. You make a couple of points that are valid, but then you delve into all sorts of bullshit rationalizations and explanations afterwards that just ruin your entire point.

It's not that looks "matter" it's that if you're attractive you'll have an easier time picking up women and won't need as much game to do it. As long as you're not deformed in some way or some extreme type of ugly then you'll be fine.

Your points about self confidence, how to approach and whether your approach was off or not are bullshit. A less attractive guy who gets blown out of a set would likely not have been blown out if he had better game. Sure the women will tell you it's because they weren't attracted to him, but attraction is not solely based on looks and as such if he'd gamed her better he would have had a better reaction. That said, you're not going to get to a place where you can fuck every woman you approach, everyone gets rejected even those model looking mother fuckers.

As for self confidence, once you get yourself to a place where you don't care about the outcome those rejections aren't going to impact your self esteem. In fact your self esteem should get to a place where it's innate; you don't need external validation to feed your self esteem. I'm not an overly attractive guy, but I get good reactions from women all the time due to my confidence. Gunwitch» is a perfect example of a guy who's not a super attractive guy but is going to outpull most of those model looking guys.

As for the approaching advice, for a new guy that is just plain old shitty advice. What you're talking about is using pAImAI exclusively for your approaches and for a more advanced guy who gets the results that he wants already it's good advice. For a new guy who needs the experience of approaching it's just limiting their pool of who to approach. In fact, I tell people to approach anyone; guys, girls, young, old. This selective approaching stuff is particularly bad advice for anyone who has approach anxiety as they are just going to use it as an excuse not to approach anyone.