Why Negs Work And What People Are Doing Wrong

You said they (the eyes or the glasses) looked nice

She can't get too angry because you're still being (kind of) nice to her.

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Originally Posted by annakin
Also, the timing of negs? I believe they should be thrown like pebbles, just throw away comments midway through a routine, but should they come close together, or should there be a bit of a gap between them? 

This depends on the girl and your own style of game. You'll have to calibrate properly to figure that one out. Some girls will take/require a little more active disinterest up-front; others may require more spacing or fewer Negs.

I use a lot of tease-negs. After initial attraction is established, this is part of my character and reminds girls what they liked about me in the first place. A lot of them like how I 'bust their balls' or 'don't treat them like a girl'.

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Originally Posted by Starman
While I think "neg" is a nice short word, easy to remember, too many guys seem to come across the term casually, without knowing exactly what it is. They interpret "neg" as meaning "negative" and get "insult." 

The VAH has a great summary on the Types of Negs Mystery has developed, but perhaps we need to develop it further?

In my Initial posting I talked about Open-Ended-Statements (OES)

To me, "You blink a lot" falls under this category. You are not assigning any value to the statement (unless it is being done through inflection/delivery) - but the line carries weight. That gravity is assigned by the recipient only, and allows you to better read their inner levels of confidence and self worth.

I've looked at it as Neg being 'less than negative' - not all the way there, but along the same lines.

I agree that when 'throw a Neg' becomes 'say something negative', it deteriorates to 'say something bad'

For instance: people wanting to target: braces, acne, speech impediments

As if the girl isn't already aware of them?

When I can tell/suppose a girl is self-conscious about something: I avoid it. No Negs, no negative comments, no positive comments - Steer clear. She has too many pent-up emotions on this subject already. If you want to destroy her self-esteem: by all means go for it!

If you want to build something with her - just don't go there.

Targeting girls fake nails, her hair extensions, her high-heels - these are all things she is actively DOING to gain attraction points.

Showing indifference - and thus targeting her pride - will have a much more desirable effect.

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Originally Posted by Hatman/MuayThai
ok, can someone please critique this formulation i've made:
"Is your hair real? Cos I like one side better than the other".

Muay-Thai:

"Is your hair real?" is a solid neg on its own.

Here is a mistake I'm seeing a lot of:

A lot of guys feel bad about negging, or they're afraid of the consequences.

Because of this anxiety, they validate their Neg when they don't have to.

If you jump right into - cuz I like one side better than the other - It doesn't seem natural. (And must, by default, be premeditated.) In that case- what kind of guy would say something like that in a premeditated fashion? (She asks herself an asshole (she answers herself)

If you want to seem natural - and include a validation point - you have to pause between the two or wait for a response.

GB: Is your hair real?

HB: What?

GB: It looks like a wig. This side doesn't look like it's on right.

HB: (either in shock or anger) It's not a wig!

And go from there if you want to build. Or, you can let it drop and simply rest on the 'Is your hair real?' Neg