How to neg and compliment

author:          "Sinn"
date:             Tue 2 Jan 2001 09:37 GMT
newsgroup:  alt.seduction.fast
subject:       How to neg and compliment ...You don't need a reason to do it, but do need the ability to keep your mouth moving and their attention focused on you long enough to distract...

Sinn wrote:
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Hey guys,

I've been noticing lately that most guys seem to have a lot of trouble knowing when and how to neg and when/how to compliment.

Here's a far too brief primer:

It's never too early to neg. I usually open with a neg.

You don't need a reason to do it, but do need the ability to keep your mouth moving and their attention focused on you long enough to distract them from the comment.

This means I never say " You and I are never going to get along."

And pause.....................

because when i do, the answer invariably is " You're right".

So I say you and I are never going to get along. So back to my friend his girlfriend finds these letters and pictures...

We call this throw and go in the biz.....

Remember that negs are like a tiny little pebble you throw out to keep the target's attention while we work the group.

Also the second major thing to remember is to keep a little balancer on the tip of your tongue if she does get peeved.

When she's starting to actually get pissed( I.E not flirting) like she asks you what that means...

All you need to do is compliment her to bring her back around.

Ex: You and I are not going to get along"
Her: You're right you should leave"
You: You know why? we're too similar.

That little IOI is enough to bring her back around.

The same rule regulates complimentng, only in reverse.

Every one has generically coplimented a girl and gotten the cold "...thanks."

Well you can still pull that back by simply adding a pause and an IOD.

" You've got really nice nails...ause:
Her: ...thanks......
"Are they real?"
Her: no... they were real expensive...
" Oh well they are still nice"

If she was really gushing and enthusiatstic about the compliment, I'll leave it there. But when she responds less than enthusiastically, I take away the compliment with an IOD.

By Sinn

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gecko Wrote
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i agree...

I tend to open a lot of sets with negs too. but you must continue the conversation and keep it light.

sometimes negs bring the bitch shield to 100%.
this applies not only to negs but comments in general.
you MUST keep the conversation going, jumping from topic to topic.

for instance, i #closed a lawyer three days ago and we talked today and the conversation steered towards gays and i said the following..

Me: " yeah, i don't like gays"
HB: " don't talk like that"
Me: " that's my opinion, not yours"
HB: " i wish you wouldn't talk like that"
Me: " actually, i got a gay friend and he is cool, we go skydiving together"
( i don't have a gay friend and if my skydiving buddy found out i called him gay he would flip out )

so what i did was neutralize the negative conversation and started another thread.

so the idea here is to detect early on that the conversation is not gluing and change direction.

btw, the lawyer wants to hear my stories from the amazon and suggested dinner tommorow and i said if she is buying the dinner, she agreed

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Mrhviid Wrote
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The mere fact that Sinn and Geordino starts their posts with noting how they neg right of the bat tells me how much they have misunderstood. Sure...it Might work. But thats NOT because of the neg but because of the girls you open actually having a sense of humor!

The kind of girls that negs works on (as negs are meant to work) are the kind of girls you dont find anywhere... or often. And I do not believe you Only (not even "often") open girls of that caliber (unless you only open 1-2 sets a week or are patrons at the absoulute high society places).

yes.. Negs "might" work on average girls but that has NOTHING to do with the "neg"-effect. Its a lucky sideeffect youre experiencing... lucky cause youre using a technique totally uncalibrated!