Neg hits shouldn't be straight-out insults

Exoticoptions: that's good advice (i've realized that at the end of the night too) and nice fucking neg, i was laughing my ass off.All you want to do is throw her off guard a little, off her HB high horse, and prove that you have high standards, not like the other AFC animals in the bar. The gum bit is good. But here's your problem with that: don't do it while she's talking. This may indicate that you're not listening or paying attention, and that's bad.

Instead, after you've responded, pull out a pack of gum, offer her a piece, and then take one for yourself. Don't say that she has bad breath: let her get paranoid about it (after all, if she's been drinking, she's probably worried about that). Actually, the gum bit is a really great neg hit: it'll get her a little embarrassed, which is great, and may even discourage her from talking to other guys. I will have to try this one, if you don't mind. (Of course, the only problem is that if she thinks she has bad breath, it'll be hard getting a *close that night.)

Exoticoptions: Another great little subtlety right there..its so true, the field is where you learn. Next time, I will wait till they're done talking. Good looking out, great pointers.

Style: Exoticoption, thanks, and definitely post a field report after your next night out. Until then, here's a good neg hit/bitch shield deflector for the road (which I cut and pasted from an old thread, courtesy of Michael S I think). Let us know how it goes! TO TURN OFF BITCH SHIELD (AFTER SHE CATCHES YOU MAKING EC AND TURNS HER NOSE UP):

Michael S.: Keep a couple of lint balls or little pieces of string in your pocket. Then, when you receive one of those "Fuck You" looks... Palm one of the dust bunnies and walk right up to her and say "Excuse me", then act like you are removing it from her face, hair, or clothes. Then show her the lint ball. This has a way of frying her brain and bringing the shield ALL THE WAY DOWN. Just before that happened, she saw herself as THE PRIZE and YOU as some sort of STALKER or something. Faced with the realization that she was actually looking like some sort of ASSHOLE walking around with a lint ball stuck to her face, NOW she is not sure what to make of you. You have just saved her from looking like an asshole. In all probability she will FEEL like an asshole for misjudging you. Usually, right after you "Remove" the lint ball and show it to her, she will laugh and bring the shield down. NOW, you can have a conversation with her as one human to another.

In the process of the convo her CB friend, will call her CB7too, comes in and tries to extract her friend from me. Wing comes in and does a textbook job in diverting her. Later it turns out that she really bugged him out: she was implying that both wing and I were assholes: him for not pursuing CB7’s friend, HB7k, and I for what I guess is not pursuing mine (we were basically going out with those two girls, HBk7 and HB7 at the end of last school’s year, but didn’t do anything to get back with them this year.)  I still like HB7 a lot, she’s great, its just that to become good at this I feel I need to separate myself from anything of the AFC I was last year.

Meanwhile I’m just shooting it with HB7, keeping it on the alpha topic (how it is so incredibly lame when all the AFCs out there just go around with “whats your major” types of convo.) Prediction or something, some tall-ass goof inserts himself in the convo. He introduces himself, I give him a fake name just to fuck with him, though HB7 calls me on my shit and I have to act cool with the dude for a sec pretending to be interested in what he had to say.. He then asks HB7 about her major and the whole bananas of AFC-field tried bullshit. I can’t stand those convos, so I just turn around and engage some other old girlfriends of mine (none of them HBs. Then wing and I hit the bar to get a quick drink. {OBSERVATION: At this point I noticed, our attitude was pretty “we’re the shit” from talking to all those girls, and somehow (I notice this over and over) all the freakin girls in the bar we’re giving us the eye and shit. Guys, they REALLY sense attitudes! Here Mystery’s notion of “act like you got 3 HBs waiting for you at home” made so much more sense.} We decide to break out and do so without much ceremonial supplication for the gals we were talking to. We meet up with friend6 (FL6) and her buddy. We decide to hit this jazzy type of spot. The place is a freakin pool of dressed up sausages. Well too bad, as the four of us sit down. Soon, FL6’s 5 girlfriends come over and we all sit at a random table. I engage FL6 and she kinos me with her leg, and tells me about her recent lusts over girls. It was kinda money, but I thought it was weird how after a while I felt that she was trying to have myself convince of wanting to get with men too (using the whole “society doesn’t approve/open sexuality/I’ve done too” type of shit.) I then began whispering with my wing and friend M 6.5-7 gets pissed at us for pulling that shit. We joke with her how girls also do it all the times and that we were just having a “men conversation,” and how we were such great guys so we meant no harm. Surprisingly, she goes like “ye you guys are really cool, every time I see you two around there are always all these hot girls that dig you.”