Style tried to take vocal coaching or elocution lessons

author: "Style"
date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 05:04:00 GMT
newsgroup: alt.seduction.fast.general
subject: Voice Class

Alam Palmer wrote:
>I'm now taking a voice class. I'm the only guy in a class of eight. The class
>only has one doable target, a 7.
>But I'm there mainly to learn how to control my voice, so I can make >it more
>seductive.

Style: I have been trying to find a place to take vocal coaching or elocution lessons. I don't want to learn "speech." I want to learn how to enunciate, to speak louder, to speak clearer (all important for walk ups on group sets), and to, of course, sound more seductive. I've searched on the Internet, but can't figure out how to find classes or one-on-one tutors for this.

Ashton: I want to put in a strong recommendation for Roger Love's "Set Your Voice Free."  The book comes with a CD with all the voice exercises on it.  Once you've read the book and practiced it a few times, you just pop in the CD whenever you want to practice.  That way, you don't have to remember what was in the book. Plus, his techniques worked quite well for me.  When I practice (which I don't do enough), I can control my voice well with little effort.

Alan Palmer: If your primary aim is to increase the seductive qualities of your voice, then may I suggest you avoid "Public Speaking" and "Sales Presentation" classes (unless they are rich in HBs.) Instead, I recommend you take voice classes  that are aimed at actors or would-be actors, mainly because the instructor is likely to be an actor and voice/accent coach. I'm taking a night class that teaches the voice aspect of acting to non-actors. The instructor is brilliant at acting and foreign accents. I've half a mind to tell her exactly why I'm there and ask her for private tuition to help me with my goals (straight-up, I've no intention of sarging her). I want to be able to make my voice more resonant, and a little deeper in pitch. Already I can sense that that is possible and what I need to practice to get that.

Style: That's a great idea: telling the voice coach your exact PUA goals. (Or you could tell them you need to play Don Juan in a play.) But, Alan, how do I go about finding an actor's voice coach? Where should I look, a magazine or web site? I searched the internet and just can't find anything.

Alan Palmer: Lots of places that teach acting will have classes just on voice. Maybe you could call up one of these places, explain that you're not an actor yet you want to work on your voice, and ask the staff for recommendations (on voice classes and voice coaches).

Atwater88: My projection is very powerful, (years of debate, door to door sales, and a bit of theater) and I found that it is quite counterproductive to seduction. I have found that you want much less definition and projection in your voice when you're trying to seduce. Once I started speaking to girls in my "sexxy voice" I found that the reactions were drastically different. Listen to Ross, he doesn't project worth a shit. That is how I try to sound, and the results are amazing.

Style: It's funny, because Ross to me sounds like a wimp when he says his patterns. It doesn't sound sexy at all to me. Obviously, it works, but I think there are sexier voices. To tell the truth, I've never met Ross, but I'm a little intrigued. I like his ideas and methods, but when you hear him on tape, his jokes are nerdy and corny, his voice is wimpy, and he comes across like a wet fish. Am I wrong? Maybe for you, the problem isn't just too much definition and projection, it's adding sensitivity and heartfelt emotion to your voice. And how about Barry White? He projects!