Interview For Wilder

There's a big difference between relationship game and pick-up game, but at the same time there's also a lot of things that they have in common. Being unflappable is a big thing in a relationship as well as in pick-up, having interesting things to say, developing yourself the way that pick-up guys do. Getting better personalities, those are all things that are important in relationship game.

Things like the cocky/playful frame, I use that all the time - my father was cocky/funny, that's how I was raised. I'm always making fun of girls, always doing stuff like that in a relationship. Guys ask me "Do I have to?" be like that all the time, and I can't answer that - I'm not saying you have to - it's just part of who I am, I've been doing it for so long, that I do it all the time anyway. I do it with my guy friends, I do it with my girlfriend.

After that, if you really want relationship game, you shouldn't be afraid to have relationships. If you want to stay in the game you have to find a way to have an open relationship, but you don't want to shy away from really getting to know girls on a deeper level. Sometimes that can take a year, two years or even longer, and until you have some of those relationships in your back pocket, you will not have the relationship game that you would have having that time in a relationship.

Absolutely. One of the things - I hope it's a myth, on ASF, guys seem to think that it's probably not possible to get a girl to be your girlfriend and be resistant to players, whether natural or trained. From talking to Tyler Durden, in his experience the boyfriend is the guy that's waiting for the girl that he's in bed with to come home.

There's a couple of issues there - one is that his attraction game is better than almost anyone else's on the planet. He's dealing with a skillset that most guys are probably never going to have. If you're worried about your girlfriend coming across Tyler Durden - there's only about four of him, it's not that big of an issue. On top of that, there's not a lot of guys that have relationship game, but I can tell you a fact about the guys that do have it - they don't worry about this stuff. I don't worry about this stuff, nobody cheats on me. My relationships are set up so that it's completely ok if they do. I'll tell a girl from the beginning - I never want to stop you from doing something that makes you happy. When I give them permission to do that, you take away one reason they'll go out there and cheat on you - to make you mad or to get more attention. They know that's not going to work with me because I've already told them I want them to be happy. So it's just a non-issue. I have the opposite view to most of mASF in that I come from a background of relationships, and they come from the background of picking up girls. I can tell you that if you are pressing all a girl's relationship buttons then you are keeping her happy, she understands. The reasons finds so many girls cheat with him is that most guys are shitty boyfriends. Most girls with boyfriends, I know they're bored. When you are the guy waiting at home for a girl, and you are making her happy, she knows how rare that is. She knows you're the one guy in ten million that will actually be her boyfriend, and keep her attracted, and keep her happy, and keep her hot after you - when you have that, and you know how to be supportive, and be all those things that are involved in being a good boyfriend, when she knows that there's no way in hell she's going to cheat on you.

That's it - most of my female friends are in long-term relationships, and I just can't see them cheating - I can't see it happening.

So my guess is that they are with guys with decent game?

But all the while, do these girls know that you have other girlfriends?

That's part of my game now, that they do, yeah. I don't have girls that test me on that any more. Everyone knows that I'm dating multiple people. In general, when you're developing that type of structure, you don't talk about relationships, you evade any questions that are serious of that nature, you don't see a girl more than once a week. I break all these rules from time to time, but that's because I know what I'm doing. If you only see a girl once a week, she's gotta assume that you're doing other things. If she brings it up "oh, are you seeing anybody else?" you can playfully evade it like "well, not right now, unless you count that girl in the closet... don't look in my closet!" So I've just evaded that question, and I'm not going to go in with that. So I never have to say I'm with other girls, it's just assumed.