Interview For Wilder

That was before I found the cold game stuff but not too much before, it was all part of the evolution of getting rid of those things, and actually being the man that allows women to be attracted when they really want to be.

I think there's something we can all relate to there - certainly I can!

Workshops

So now your running workshops?

Sensei and I run a workshop out of Project San Francisco. It's Pickup 101, pickup101.com. We've run about 8 so far, including two pilot/offshoot workshops, one of which was an MLTR workshop - dating multiple women, which actually didn't quite have the market we thought. That's the stuff that Sensei and I are most excited about, because it's what we talk about the most - managing a relationship. We both are constantly dating multiple women, him for the last 8 years, for me it's about the last 3.

When we went to the community with this, we went out to put together an incredible workshop for a really cheap price, we were so into this material, but we had practically no-one sign up. We went back and found out that most guys actually aren't dealing with the issues that come up around dating multiple women, because they're just not there yet.

So now we have to get everyone there, and then we can do these different workshops, because it's good stuff.

I think the RSD guys are finding that the big end of the market is the bottom end - the very basic level, guys who have never even kissed a girl

Right, we're going back to an even more basic level than we have right now. I definitely agree that there's a lot of guys out there who really need the basic information.

So do you think that basic information is very universal?

Yes and no, I do think it's very universal but everyone has their own take on it. You can stress different aspects of the basic information, and I think that's what everybody's doing. RSD stresses different aspects to what Badboy does, and the stuff that we do, or that David D does. The stuff that we talk about is probably different to most people. We spend a lot of time talking about image and identity, and not just from a pick-up standpoint, although that's important. Who are you when you present yourself to the world, and how does that person dress, and act and behave. What kind of extra-curricular stuff do you have. We help them build that identity that is congruent with who they are and what they want to be.

We also talk alot about stories for generating attraction - I just put out a post about this on Cliff's Notes. People come out of our workshop with individual material. If you ever hear jlaix's material, it's great, but nobody could steal it and use it except him, it's crazy. We set people up with material like that, it conveys their personality in a way that's powerful, in a way that makes them entertains the audience, builds interest and attraction, and it's congruent because it's stuff that happened to them. That's one of the things that we think is fundamental.

That and all the normal stuff, body language, cocky and funny - the cocky and playful frame that came from David D, all of that.

Routines and Openers

So you still think it's a good idea to use the same routine in each pick-up, but to make it your routine?

I do, I'm a big believer in routines. I'm a writer, and people are constantly amazed by my ability to make things up on the fly. I never thought of that as an ability, but I guess it is. So I ad-lib maybe 90% of my sets, but I'm still a believer in routines. It's the difference between Improv and Stand-Up comedy. Improv may be funny, it may not be funny, but a stand-up comic has practiced those routines, he knows where the punchline is, he knows where the pauses are, he knows when he's going to get a laugh. That's what an attraction routine is, it's something that communicates the right things. Imagine telling the funniest joke the audience has ever heard, but instead communicating sexuality and confidence - that's what a routine is. I think it's great to have some routines in your bag that are yours, that you're comfortable with and that you know are going to build value. So you know, when you're done, after two or three minutes of material, that the people listening will have been thoroughly entertained, laughing their asses off, touching you, and wanting to hear more. If you have a couple of things like that in your bag, and you know that you do, that's a great thing to carry out into social networking and pick-up.