Logan: Ever since I've been interested in PU (before I found out about ASF), I have consciously tried to make myself more outgoing, friendly, "Alpha". I lead the conversation, ask questions, I am expressive, enthusiastic, I smile a lot. I'm now known as a friendly, easy-going guy, and I repeatedly hear comments about how "charming" I am.
I'm not getting laid NEARLY as much as one of my friends, though, and he is very much the opposite.
His voice conveys no enthusiasm...it's a slow drawl, that sometimes makes one think he's on drugs (he often is.) His face is mostly blank. He's very mellow and gentle. He dresses kind of scruffily. He's very soft-spoken and tender-looking. He NEVER chases or tries to PU girls. He NEVER tries to initiate conversation with them. He is TOTALLY relaxed around everyone, including HBs. He is not anything special to look at, as far as I can tell, and this was confirmed for me by some girls seeing him from a distance.
And women, especially HOT ones, chase this guy as if they are desperate. I can't tell you how many times girls have gone out of their way to find out his phone number, call him, and ask him out. They try all kinds of crazy shit to be with him. It's hard to describe, but it's something of a phenomenon.
This guy has no idea what he's doing to make this happen. He sometimes hooks up with some of these girls, but he's unconcerned about it because there are so many of them there chasing him at any one time.
So what's going on here? The one thing where this guy's behavior fits right in with ASF thinking is that he is totally relaxed and natural around super HBs, as if they were the mailman or something. But he has no routines, no openers, he's not at all "alpha", or dominant or anything like that. He's outgoing in the sense that he goes out a lot, but he's not especially aggressive in meeting people, at all.
Does anyone else know this kind of mellow, effortless PUA? Do you have any ideas on the secret of their appeal? How their appeal actually works, what it is about their personalities that pushes women seemingly to desperation?
Mr. Laser: Yes, me! I know two of them! The first one I know is a little like this and has been since we were younger. I'm 21 now but since we were about 15 he's been doing well at this type of PU. He's scruffy. He doesn't give a shit about most stuff and generally seems to get through life without making too much of an effort, including his PU! I don't really know what it was about him but females just liked him and were interested in him from the start, but he's got this tough guy look and I guess he's decent looking.
He's minor league compared to the other guy I know though! This guy is 33, bald and is ALWAYS pissed on alcohol or high off of weed + ! But when we go out or he shows his face outside his house he just seems to know everyone there and is surrounded by a whole load of his old gf's! Now this guy is totally relaxed all the time. I can't even IMAGINE him getting pissed off or showing too much emotion apart from laughter. He comes across as such a friendly guy that females must feel so comfortable with him that they want him! The only strange thing I can think of about him which might be producing these results is that he TALKS real slow but clear (maybe as a result of all the weed - and I'm being serious too).
I've often wondered how to produce this relaxed atmosphere but now you're really making me think! Maybe it's just that they truly don't give a shit about how people see them and this is picked up on?
I'm interested to see if we can find a method here which can show us how to replicate this, but if not, don't despair! It's not the only way to PU and also you can use them to attract girls in a group and then PU whoever you like from that group, but using aggressive game!
Lets keep digging to find the mystery though - I swear I know exactly what you mean when you say it's becoming a phenomenon and I want to know about what it is! Excellent post Logan!
