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The solution to venue changes, including parties, is to just sit there and look |
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TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH YOURSELF. Not trying to socialize or anything like |
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that, it doesn’t matter. They’ve ALREADY CHOSEN YOU, so you can ONLY FUCK IT |
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UP. |
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I speak from many many BOTCHED post-club instant-dates, where I’d sarge at the |
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next venue and botch it. I’d go home alone scratching my head like "WTF |
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happened?" This shit never happens anymore though. |
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Why? Cause these days I don’t worry about conveying more value, but trust the |
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value I’ve built, and tend to just sit there, and wait them out. I find that |
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chicks will always take me home if I do it like that. |
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SAME goes for while you’re EN ROUTE while you switch venues. Don’t try to chat |
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them the whole walk/drive. Just walk with your wing, and have your own convo. |
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You’ll NEVER succeed in gaming them enough to keep them in state while you’re |
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WALKING. It’s not realistic. Instead, TRUST the game that you laid in the |
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club, and just walk to the next venue without trying TOO HARD. If talk |
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happens, FINE. But don’t push for it. They’ve CHOSEN YOU, so anything you do |
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is more likely to fuck it up than it is to help (especially if they’ve already |
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chosen you on a biological level). Just wait until they’re alone, and THEN do |
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your thing. |
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> |
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>On the way to the party, you |
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>were discussing strategy. This |
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>is counterproductive because |
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>it will ruin your state or in |
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>this case ’party mood’ if you |
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>like. I URGE you to read my |
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>post "Preventing ’OFF’ nights |
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>becoming ’ON’": |
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AGREED. The only reason we were talking game at all was that we were on |
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workshop, and its my job to teach the stuff. If I were winging the insta-date |
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with Paps or Mystery or Twentysix, I never would have been talking game. |
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>From your post: "TD says, |
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>fuck this, GAME ON. We |
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>immediately approach a 2-set |
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>at the bar" |
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> |
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>This is it! If you had said |
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>"fuck this, GAME ON" when you |
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>arrived at the party as well, |
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>I’m sure you would both have |
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>gotten laid. |
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YES. When Sickboy originally was wondering what was going on, I followed the |
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advice from your post and said "no game talk, its game on". The talk during |
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the venue change was because she’d already chosen, and my chick was done for |
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due to the boyfriend drama. |
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Sickboy’s sarge was basically a full sarge. He said "let’s go" with a |
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PRESUPPOSITION, she would have done it instantly. He chose to make the |
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workshop for next day. |
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My chick was botched due to my failure to remember MY OWN RULE about |
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FALSE-DISQUALIFYING when she has a boyfriend. I thought she was so drunk off |
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infatuation that she’d cheat. I was wrong, and I won’t fuck that one up again. |
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>A common mistake among me and |
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>my friends, is that we assume |
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>that the deal is closed at a |
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>too early time and lay the |
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>whole pressure down on one |
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>chick too soon. This can be |
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Yep, exactly. |
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>disastrous because unless the |
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>HB has decided to fuck the |
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>guy, ’guy having fun’ is more |
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>attractive than ’guy trying to |
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>get laid’ (which is who you |
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>turn into when you phase |
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>shift). I find it helpful to |
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>tell myself "Relax, you are |
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>not ’there’ yet" when chicks |
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>touch me or make out with me |
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>in clubs to avoid any |
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>premature neediness. |
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Careful here though. Use PUNISHMENT/REWARD once she’s chosen you, and you’re |
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in rapport. Don’t use C&F comebacks or shit test passing measures. PURE |
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punishment/reward. David D says "attraction is not a choice". Remember that. |
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If she’s attracted, just use punishment/reward, don’t try to continue |
|
attracting her. |
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Good feedback, cause it gave me the chance to address these issues. You’re on |
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pretty much the exact page I was on about 3 months ago, but since I’ve done it |
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this way its gotten full results. Give it a shot man, you won’t regret it. |
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Just re-read the post on push/pull that I just recently wrote, and use the |
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stuff about bodylanguage push/pull, which is the ESSENCE of punishment/reward |
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(IOW, when they shit test, don’t diffuse it with C&F, but just punish through |
|
withdrawal of attention). |
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