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When I KNOW she wants me, I go for the kill
>But it's better, from MY perspective, to stay away from clubs, because in THOSE environments, the "don't approach me/this is a come on" atmosphere DOES tend to prevail quite often
I totally agree with your reasoning, but not your solution. You can NOT go there OR you can devise another tactic for getting past the girl's response. I don't actually HIT on a girl in the first 10 minutes. I merely convey my personality (humor, wit, confidence, charm, etc.) When they realize that I'm a great guy and therefore begin showing signs of interest (body language is like mind reading) then I KNOW she wants me and I go for the kill. The openers must really be natural.
Get good in clubs and the rest of the world will be an easy pie eating contest.
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